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- 2013-6 Thursday Service
We recently have started a Thursday Service fortnightly. It meets at 10am for a short service with some of the favourite older songs, followed by morning tea. Everyone is welcome....
- Cambodian Fellowship
The Cambodian Fellowship meet weekly on a Sunday at 5.30pm...
- 2012-7-1 Weekly Update
Thankyou for generous giving to the Cambodian Love Offering.
Courageous Living Mens Conference. A two day conference ...
- 2012.06.10 Weekly update
Cambodian Love Offering this Sunday 10 June 2012 please put in a marked envelope
Childrens Church Parents Meeting after 10am Service on the 17th June Kids church hall.
Freedom Trust AGM 7pm Friday June the 22nd in Cafe
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- 2013-12 The Gathering
(Assembly: November 7-10)
National Assembly, or better known as the Gathering, is an annual event where all the Baptist churches are invited to send their pastors and representatives to hear what the Lord is doing amongst us. Linda and I have been regular attenders for the past 20 years. We worship, celebrate, debate, vote and listen to the prophetic voices from the Christian Communities, even beyond our own Denomination. Our wonderful hosts were Manukau Baptist Church in Auckland. We started early morning and went late into the night.
Eleven of us managed to attend the graduation at of Jeremy Adams, Margaret McFedries and Donna Reid. They have been on a two year probation period of study and supervision. In this process they also learn about the history of our Denomination and gain a better understanding of how we operate as a family of churches. They are now accepted by our Denomination as fully registered Ministers. This is a great achievement for our church. I can feel our vision statement; “belong, grow and influence” in their development. Congratulations!!
The topic of “the Gathering” was “Diversity”. Our main speaker was Keith Newman who is the author of: Beyond Betrayal and Ratana the Prophet. Keith delivered a sombre message around our Treaty and the injustice of our past to our present day. Fantastic!
Duncan Gibb, the CEO of SCIRT was inspirational. He shared the story of Christchurch rebuild. SCIRT leads all the underground work of water and waste. They have been recognized on the world stage for their model of unity and efficiency. Brilliant!
We heard stories of how churches have been embracing different ethnic ministries; even Sam and I got a slot to share our story. There were constant deliveries of powerful short testimonies often bringing people to tears mixed with sorrow and joy. We could attend workshops; sound, children, youth, mission, Maori ministries, and much more. Our overseas mission focus was the sad and moving story of world slavery.
The debate on same sex marriage was intense, but held in commendable manner of respect. We finished off with “the banquet” and ethnic celebration held in Mangere, and Sam and Nimol treated the large crowd with their dance.
Those of us who went are still digesting the rich layers of theology and stories.
Overall this will have to go down as one of the most stirring, moving and memorable Gatherings for Linda and myself.
Blessings Pastor Ed
- 2013 - 10 Christian Behaviour must have the courage to forgive.
Christian behaviour must have the courage to forgive.
We all need to take time to experience God in our personal lives. One of the fundamental ways to experience God’s love is to keep our relationships with people in order. This doesn’t mean that we will have sweet fellowship with everybody, but we are called to be forgiving.
1Jn 2 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him.
Ed Dobson was a pastor of a large church in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He sadly contracted ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis), or better known to us as; Motor Neurone Disease. His condition forced him to retire. This gave him more time to reflect on his life and ministry. He realized he had a number of people he needed to forgive. He made a list; and made visits to seek their forgiveness. This is a brave story of forgiveness, but Christian behaviour must have the courage to forgive.
Christians want to be filled with the Holy Spirit, but often lack being filled with forgiveness. We pray for revival, but we still have people we need to forgive. Unforgiveness and revival cannot mix. Revival is a personal experience first, and it flows from hearts willing to be humbled by God.
The apostle Peter posed the question to Jesus; “how many times must I forgive; seven times?” Jesus insisted that the number was seventy seven times. He explains the essence of forgiveness in the following parable of the unmerciful servant (Mt 18). The King (God) cancelled the servant’s (us) debt. But the servant didn’t apply this same forgiveness to others. The end result is tragic; the King has the servant handed over to the tormentors. Jesus concludes the parable with the sobering words; “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
Jesus himself lead the way in the stakes of forgiveness expressed so powerfully on the cross; “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. (Lk. 23:34). Stephen who was martyred (Acts 7) repeated similar words; “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” This kind of forgiveness can only be found in and through God.
Sometimes we just don’t have what it takes; it is at this point we need God to step in. If your past is too painful; invite the Lord to give you strength to forgive. Find someone who can help and pray with you. Why forgive? God’s forgiveness is not cheap; it came with a horrendous cost, paid by Jesus at the cross. Moreover, God wants us to be free from being tormented, and finally God demands and commands us to.
- 2013 - 10 How is your Health
This week I made a visit to the doctor, getting my physical warrant of fitness. He took my blood pressure with a basic overhaul to discover improvement from my previous year visit. My doctor demanded: “The only thing I’m prescribing for you is another holiday next year in the Cook Islands. Whatever you did there has worked” My initial thought, was jubilation, but I concluded something must change. Holidays are good, but they should not be the rescue package for a person’s health.
There are some practical things we can implement to assist with better health; exercise and diet. One of the churches in the Cook Islands is taking this serious, by running a health program for their people, monitoring their weight and diets. But health is more than our physical condition. The biblical view of health is also viewed in the context of the whole person; body, soul and spirit (3Jn.1;2)
The bible gives plenty of clues to good health: Proverbs 3 …. do not forget my teaching, but keep my commands in your heart, 2 for they will prolong your life many years and bring you peace and prosperity.
The heart is generally used as the seat of our emotions and thoughts. Jesus makes the point; (Mt 15)18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. Jesus also adds; Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are healthy, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are unhealthy, your body also is full of darkness.(Lk 11).
Jesus attributes our health to our thought patterns. However, I have a problem with my thoughts; they wander all over the place; some good, some evil. Perhaps the holiday allowed me to unclutter those thoughts and simplify them to basic living. Eat, pray, read, talk, swim and sleep. It seems to me that my Western living is in conflict with the simpler, slower paced way of life of healthy living. We drive fast, work hard, talk fast, play hard; everything in the name of progress. We are so progress driven that we run the risk of missing the gentle whisper of the Holy Spirit. I’ve come to the conclusion that biblical health is governed by our relationship with God and others, and it is much slower with less clutter. Pastor Ed
- 2013-09 Elders retreat
Last weekend, the Elders and spouses met together to spend time praying and reflecting on where we’re at as a fellowship and how we might move forward. We also took time out to relax, exercise and even watch a bit of test match rugby. We spent some time considering the differences between a local and a city church, and concluded that while we are primarily a local fellowship we have elements of both – hence we draw people from a wide area but maintain close connections within the fellowship. We are less performance oriented than some city churches, and place more importance on being authentic and informal. We see benefits in remaining at our present site, rather than relocating closer to the Papanui business area.
Some of the distinctive features of Pap Bap that we identified were our openness and honesty, strength of staff and leadership, intentionality about our faith, our small group structure, our community involvement and outreach, and an acknowledgement that the Holy Spirit is alive and well in our midst. Of course, there are some areas where we are falling short that we need to pay attention to, including better means of incorporation of newcomers. Overall though, there is much to give thanks for - in terms of statistics, we punch above our weight for baptisms and new Christians, and are the only church in the Canterbury Association district that is currently planting a new fellowship (Cambodian). The Alpha courses have provided opportunities for introducing new people to Jesus.
Some of the challenges we discussed were biculturalism, our commitment to the Cambodian fellowship, the need to become more involved in our community - having community based programmes is great, but there is a tendency to hide behind these and let them become a substitute for personal involvement.
Until we get the engineers report on the state of our buildings, any further building developments are stalled. However, God’s work is not stalled and while post-earthquakes we have had a time of consolidation, we are entering a season where many people are open to the Gospel and we need to take opportunities to share our faith with our “neighbours” and disciple new believers.
Overall we believe Pap Bap is in good heart, and we are presently experiencing a sovereign move of the Holy Spirit amongst us; we want to encourage and foster this and let God continue to mould us more into the image and character of His son, Jesus.
Don Jellyman (on behalf of the elders)
- 2013 - 08 Faith evokes the Holy Spirit
Prayer mixed with faith is a potent mix. I encourage people to pray in an audible voice, especially when we are faced with depression or discouragement. Jesus never seemed to have drawn out prayers, but he was the audible master of small sentence prayers; “come out”, “be quiet”, “receive your sight”, “get behind me Satan”. They seem more like commands than prayers; nevertheless theses prayers are packed with faith.
I would never suggest that my faith is in the league of Jesus, but He did model a faith that his disciples took hold of after Pentecost, and there is a correlation with the presence of the Holy Spirit and the faith-prayers of the believers. As Jesus was doing miracles, the Holy Spirit was present (Lk 5:17). In contrast, if things didn’t happen, it was the lack of faith amongst the people (Mk 6;6).
At times my prayers for people have been no more than; “please help the doctors and nurses” to bring healing. Although it is sincere; it lacks faith. It is not the kind of prayers we find from Jesus or the disciples. This begs the question; are we lacking faith or is it the absence of the Holy Spirit? Or is it both?
The Bible tells us; we cannot please God without faith (Heb 11:6), so faith is the minimal requirement to operate in God. Faith is not like an unending tap, but rather a vat that needs filling. This principle is repeated in the Scriptures; faith comes by hearing the word of God (Rom 10:17); do not get drunk with wine, but be filled with the Spirit (Eph 5:18); I will show my faith by my deeds (James 2:18). Faith is birthed by the Holy Spirit, but we are responsible to keep this alive. I find it easier to blame someone or something else for my lack of faith, but sobering are the words of Jesus; “will he find faith when he returns?” (Lk 18:8). It is clear from this scripture that Jesus puts his trust in us to remain and grow in faith (and there is much more to faith than what I am writing).
The encouraging part in our faith journey is that we can, at any time, kick into a new level, enlarging the pool of faith. Some 16 years ago I baptized a 73 year old man who had been reluctantly going to church with his faithful wife. One day he came to me and said; “I want to follow the Lord fully”. He made a decision; he no longer wanted a tepid faith. His family discovered a new man with a fresh vision of Jesus. Interesting to notice; as he enlarged the pool of faith, he evoked the Holy Spirit to move in his life.
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